Brian: 0:11

Hey, welcome back to the Vero Beach Podcast. I'm Brian and I'm Shawna, and today we are sitting here at Resistance with Danielle. Now, danielle, I have no idea how to say your last name, it's like Kyrie X-Y-Z something like that, but. I'm going to let you share. How do you say?

Danielle: 0:26

your last name. It is Karazic. And fun fact in middle school my AIM screen name, if we remember those days, was Karazy Chick, so that's pretty much what you can call me, but a lot of people here in VO just call me Danielle and I go by it and it's totally cool.

Shawna: 0:45

I want to try to remember that, though Karazic.

Danielle: 0:48

It's kind of like the phone number rhythm. You have to have a rhythm spelling it. So it's K-I-R-E-, y-c-z-y-k.

Shawna: 0:56

It's just like a social security number.

Danielle: 0:58

It is, it's phone number. Rhythm oh that's hilarious.

Brian: 1:02

I mean, you could use your last name as a password. Man, that's pretty strong.

Shawna: 1:04

Totally. Nobody would ever, ever guess it.

Brian: 1:11

But she doesn't for all you hackers out there. Yeah, she doesn't do that. Yes, we're so glad to be able to have you on the podcast. We've been looking forward to this. Right now, we're sitting at your location, right here. What's the address at your?

Danielle: 1:20

location. This is 725 8th Street. It's right next to Domino's Pizza a perfect location for anything fitness. But technically I have units 15, 725, and 735. But our front door is 725.

Brian: 1:35

Nice, yeah, I think when we came here we did a free class, which I know we're going to talk about that too a little bit later but I noticed, like I was like is this the door?

Danielle: 1:44

I'm like no, it's like there's an arrow that points down. Let's just keep following the arrows. We'll get there, yep, you will get here.

Brian: 1:48

I promise, danielle, tell us, take about 30 seconds to tell us a little bit about yourself.

Danielle: 1:51

I'm originally from Massachusetts, not Boston. There is more to Massachusetts than Boston. I am on the New York side of the house of Massachusetts, so it's called Westfield, right outside of Springfield. I am a Western Mass kid, lived there for 33 years so moved down here about four and a half years ago. So you cannot shake the New England out of me. I talk fast. Right now I'm holding my hands together because I usually talk with my hands, but I am a New England girl. Go Patriots, go Celtics, go Red Sox. Got to say that for my dad. But yeah, now I'm a Vero kind of native. I got stung by my first jellyfish this weekend, so I feel like a Floridian now You're in.

Danielle: 2:32

Yeah, yep, but yeah, I am New England through and through.

Shawna: 2:35

I love that and let the hands fly. We're fine with that. You won't hurt anything. These are strong.

Brian: 2:45

Okay, I guess we'll go ahead and talk about. We had the opportunity, which just doesn't usually happen. Normally we got to come and sit in a free class first, before the interview.

Shawna: 2:50

I would not call it sitting in. It wasn't sitting in at all.

Brian: 2:52

I wasn't expecting it to be so intense, but it felt great afterwards.

Shawna: 2:56

I was expecting it to be that intense and I was just glad I didn't pass out or throw up.

Shawna: 3:06

I just wanted to tell you like I appreciated so much, first of all, like encouragement beforehand, and you know the staff knew who we were as soon as we walked in, which I can only imagine is intentional when you have someone new coming in and a little gift bag on the bike, and you helped us get set up because I had no idea what to do. But I think what I appreciated the very most was during the actual class. I, number one, never saw you actually look straight at me, but it's got to be an art, right you?

Danielle: 3:27

know what's happening. You kind of it's like that quote you picture everybody naked, so you're just looking through them. However, you can have those magic moments where you're looking at somebody and having a connection, but I know the majority of people that take fitness classes do not want to be called out. They don't want that eye contact. It's really scary. They do like it when the instructor compliments, though, like they're like, oh my God, she's looking at me. But overall it's just you kind of like look through at the person's soul and not at their face. Oh that's beautiful.

Shawna: 3:53

Yeah, yeah, it was. It was definitely the right approach to take with me because, as my first spin class ever and not working out a whole lot, I knew it was going to be hard on me and I was scared. But I was like I'm going to go do this thing. And then it was super hard for me, Sure, and like I loved how you gave so many options Like if you can't do this, do this. If you can't do this, do this. That was really helpful for me. It takes the shame out of you know, making it your own workout. Right in the middle of it, I thought to myself I'll definitely never do this again. As soon as it was over, I was like, yeah, I would do that again. Yep, yeah.

Brian: 4:26

Actually, you are doing it again.

Shawna: 4:27

I am doing it again tomorrow I wanted to tell all of that in such detail, because I'm sure that it's an intimidating thing for someone to come for the first time to something they've never done before and spin, I think, from movies and things like that get like this reputation of like mean girls and they're, you know, all super fit, which I mean they were super fit, but they weren't mean girls, right? So it was just an. It felt nice when we came in. It felt like nobody was looking at us like oh, you don't belong. We didn't get any of that. You know, we didn't have like cool workout clothes or anything like that. It doesn't even matter, right? It?

Danielle: 5:01

doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. My goal is to make that room look different. I don't want everybody to look the same. I don't want everybody in the same age. I don't want people to like the same music. I want there to be such a variety. If everybody was the same I would be bored, I would literally be over it and okay, I feel like I'm seeing the same type of person every single day. I don't want that at all.

Danielle: 5:21

I always remind people that I was not born on a spin bike. It took me months to get where I am and me being on that podium is just to be a goal for you to see where you can get. And I hope also you notice the front row. Some of them are really good. They've been with me for years now at this point and it just shows that okay, not just the instructor is dynamic, the people taking the class. They're like. It makes you feel like it's reachable, absolutely.

Danielle: 5:49

And my first spin class was in Upper East Side in New York, surrounded by Broadway dancers, rockettes, like talk about the most fit rhythmatic people. I've never clipped in on a bike before. I was clipped in, locked in, and the bikes. I could feel the person's arm next to me, like I mean, if you're renting space in New York, you're using every single inch. So that was my first experience.

Danielle: 6:16

I couldn't clip out. I was just sitting there around these beautiful dancers with their feet up in the air and they're like just clip out, you're fine. I'm like am I? I don't know what I'm doing. So I have been there. I have the empathy for first-time riders. I don't want people to ever feel stressed, so we always have options. I always tell people save your stress for the outside world. Nobody should be stressed in here. And the excitement that you're describing before class, that nervous kind of bulge in your stomach I just describe it as like it's like you're waiting in line for a new roller coaster, a new ride or even a doctor's appointment. Sometimes I have that feeling in the waiting room like oh God, what's?

Brian: 6:51

today's going to be like.

Danielle: 6:54

So that feeling like if you didn't have it then you don't care. I mean, if you were just sitting out here like I guess I'm ready and just had no feeling, then I don't know if I'd want you in class, so you called it clicking out.

Brian: 7:05

is that what you?

Danielle: 7:05

said yes.

Brian: 7:05

So I remember when we showed up and you told us that you're going to click us in, I was like what? What do you mean click us in? Because I knew it said that you guys had shoes for us to wear for the cycling. So when I found out you had to click us in, I'm like, oh man, this is kind of scary.

Danielle: 7:19

Yeah, you ain't never leaving.

Brian: 7:21

That's what I told Shauna. I was like this is a good way to make sure people stay and they can't leave until they unclick you. But then later Shauna and me were talking about it she goes it's probably a good thing. Could you imagine if you were doing that and you weren't clicked in? Correct? I was like, yeah, that's probably a good thing to point out.

Shawna: 7:35

Yeah, and, by the way, I never would have gotten clicked out except the writer next to me helped me.

Danielle: 7:40

Yes. So clipping out or clicking out, either way that you say it, because they are clips, but we call them click or clip, it Doesn't matter Either way. If the worst thing that happens during class is you click out, it just forces you to learn how to clip back in. But some people at the end of class can't even clip back out and they're like I'm stuck. So that's when we tell people just unvelcro your shoes, Don't worry about it, it gets easier.

Danielle: 8:01

It's almost like a trust factor of your ankle that you want to just click really quick to the right and the left side. But as far as I know, I'm the only studio in the area that requires to be attached to the bike. My pedals have the SPD cleats, which is what you guys use. That's what our rental shoes have and that's what most spin and outdoor riders use. But on the other side of the pedal it's called the Delta cleat and that became very popular when Peloton came out and other studios up north. So both sides of our pedals are able to have shoes attached. It's just two different cleats. But either way you're attached to the bike, it's definitely more friendly for your ankles so you're not coming out of these cages and feeling it get looser and looser, you definitely have more of a power of a push and pull sense. Once people do kind of have that Cinderella moment of riding with spin shoes and feeling attached to the bike, they always say like wow, I felt much stronger because I could give myself more.

Brian: 8:57

So, Danielle, tell me what got you started into fitness.

Danielle: 9:01

Yeah, it is a very interesting journey. I was always an athlete but I never really found anything that I loved, so I was the expensive kid. My brother found hockey, baseball, golf, and was hooked. I did dance, I did karate, I did gymnastics, I did softball, I did basketball, I tried golf Just could not find my niche. Finally I fell in love with basketball and softball. I played through high school all the way to my junior year but then decided I'd rather start making some money. Our basketball sorry Westfield, but our basketball program wasn't that good. It wasn't worth not starting that journey of making some money. But I also was able to keep athletics in my time. I did the book for baseball in high school. So I still felt like I was part of a team but I was also able to make some money. So kind of graduating high school.

Danielle: 9:49

I knew in college like I would maybe do some club sports or intramurals, but I never felt like I was ever called an athlete. My brother was so good at everything like pick up any equipment and he made varsity and probably was the captain, whereas me I didn't experience that. But where I did excel was I loved working out and I loved moving my body for physical benefits and mental benefits. Luckily, my friends in high school liked working out. My college roommate liked working out so we would go to the gym all the time. And then, once I graduated undergrad, fitness still just kind of stayed for me. I had a really awesome gym at home, started doing group fitness, had these two mentors that had been teaching since the 80s, so they've definitely seen the group fitness world evolve. And finally I kind of just took the leap. They approached me and said you'd be a really good instructor. Have you ever thought of it? I didn't know the process, so when I found out it was a weekend cert to get certified in one of the programs I was going to teach, I was like, all right, let's do it.

Danielle: 10:43

I was in grad school, wasn't making a ton of money at the time and it was a really easy, light thing I could add to my schedule of school. So I started teaching at my local YMCA, which YMCA's are all different, but ours was very basic. We didn't have any like fancy equipment, we didn't have many mainstream classes, and while I started that journey, a new gym had opened up and it was called Roots. I'll probably talk about Roots throughout this next hour because it is still part of my life. I have a ring with Roots on it. That is my home gym, which I now call, since it's still in Massachusetts, but they were opening up. My mentors actually made the shift and started teaching over there and they told the owners about me. So I started teaching there part time.

Danielle: 11:23

But naturally, I am more into business. I love being creative. So, just as an instructor at Roots, I started, you know, suggesting these ideas of programming and corny names of classes and getting people involved with challenges. And when the general manager decided to step down, that boss approached me and said okay, we know you're currently, you know you just finished grad school, you're working in higher education. That was my ultimate goal was to work with students outside of the classroom. What would it take you to work for us full time? And I said health insurance, that's it. So not much. But I was hired in 2017 as their fitness manager.

Danielle: 12:02

From there, I was already told our goal is to open up an indoor spin studio in the next year, and it was very foreign to me. I had only taken spin at like a local gym. We call that kind of like gym spin. It's still kind of what was created back in the 80s, but I never took this arithmetic based dark room class. So that's when we started spending a lot of time in New York City. I traveled to California to see studios. I saw studios in Texas kind of all over and, having lived and growing up in Western Mass, it's very different than Boston 90 miles away, but we were able to take some rides 90 miles away and see what their studios were all about in Boston. Creating this indoor space of boutique fitness for Western Mass was a haul. It was a learning curve for a lot of people. They didn't understand why are we paying per class? Why is it so much more expensive? They had no idea what an amphitheater spin studio was going to be like.

Danielle: 12:54

So, fast forward to 2018, I'm still teaching at the fitness center. I'm now working with members. We overhauled our software program. That was a huge ontake and then we opened up Root Cycle in 2018. So she is still thriving. She just celebrated her seventh birthday. I still get to teach there when I go home, which is super fun. It's like now I have a teenager that I don't have to check in with anymore. Now I have this baby, but fitness kind of came at me just in a weird way. If you asked me 10 years ago, I would have told you I was going to be working for a university or a college in their student activity center or something that would let me get my creative outlet out and also my kind of psychological side, because college students are going through a lot every single day, but people are too and we sometimes forget that it continues.

Shawna: 13:45

Yes.

Danielle: 13:45

And I know for me, like fitness, was a huge psychological outlet. My parents divorced when I was 18. So continuing to work out and just kind of let that energy out was really, really helpful. So fast forward now. I kind of wanted to take my triage of skill, which is creativity, psychological strength and business, and to me that's opening up a boutique studio.

Danielle: 14:09

I know everyone that opens the doors to come in. They're either having a good day or a bad day, and you don't know which, but hopefully in 45 minutes we're going to change it to a good day. I also know that not everybody knows how to work out unless you've taken trainings to work in the fitness industry or you've paid a lot of money for a personal trainer. But to be honest, I've been a trainer and sometimes my clients couldn't fully focus the entire session. So even with that, they didn't necessarily fully learn how to properly work out on their own, because I was also like their therapist, which is where the site comes from, and you know us doing events all the time and wanting to keep people engaged throughout their time here.

Danielle: 14:50

That's where that creativity comes in. Happens Also making playlists. You have to get creative. There's some music I don't necessarily enjoy, but if I put my spin on it, I will absolutely enjoy it. So before I opened this, I felt like I had a good toolbox. I still definitely need to learn more, but I have this toolbox of managing a fitness center working with all age people, with or without children, male, female, divorced, married, single, retired, whatever. I had four years in college in the programming board and then I had my master's in psych. It all kind of came together and I took the leap and here we are today.

Shawna: 15:30

I think that's so smart of you to put together so many different passions of yours because you know, I think sometimes when you tie yourself down to something, then when it starts to fade the excitement, or when you start to get bored or it's stale, you have like different places you can tap in that you already know you love. It's a really smart way to do it.

Danielle: 15:49

Yeah, and I also like still being able to learn from all three of those levels. With the business side, I mean, I have mentors, I do webinars, I'm still learning about financing and balancing books and all of that stuff. With fitness, I mean we have to keep our CEUs active, so every two years we're having to submit those. But whenever I travel I'm popping into studios, I'm seeing what they're doing. What are their members craving that maybe mine will start to crave in a year or two, who knows?

Danielle: 16:19

And then with the psychology, mental illness is being talked about every single day and there's new things happening. I am huge on that. Here I'm more focused on people's mental health than their physical health. I don't need you to walk around with six packs knowing you have depression. I'd rather you have happiness and a belly full of yummy food and hard work. Obviously, the physical is super important. That's going to keep you out of the hospitals, it's going to let you play with your grandkids. But if I see that you're not happy, then we need to scale back and talk about something else.

Brian: 16:51

When you point out about the dark room. That was one of the things that I really thought was really encouraging. When we started the cycling class, you said you know you might be sitting around thinking that people are looking at you, but nobody's looking at you because everybody's trying to focus on what they're doing. Correct, it helped put me at peace. I'm like that's so true. A lot of other people are probably thinking those same things, like I don't want to come to the fitness studio because I'm going to be around all these people. They're all going to be watching me.

Shawna: 17:56

I'm going to look, stupid. I'm going to look stupid.

Brian: 17:58

Yeah, a lot of people are probably going to be afraid of that.

Danielle: 18:06

So what are some ways that you are kind of educating people before they even come in? Well, we, as you guys know, we call once somebody even just creates an account with us, so we try to introduce ourselves, no-transcript, that free class. Then we're calling them again 24 hours before for confirmation. We're asking them their shoe size If they're doing a spin class. We're letting them know about our strength room. Bring your water bottle in, but it's cell phone free. Try to change your shoes out in the lobby, get into your workout shoes and that's really just to protect our floor and parking lots are gross. There's water from the night before you don't know, like who's spitting in there.

Brian: 19:01

Yeah, like just protect your shoes, protect our floor.

Danielle: 19:04

So we like to just really touch base and create that relationship, even from a distance, and then when you walk in, hopefully some anxiety has already been eased. I have taught thousands of fitness classes and I can't tell you enough that nobody's even looking at me. They're maybe glancing, but at the end of the day if there's a mirror in front of them, they're looking at the mirror.

Shawna: 19:23

Yeah, I liked that feeling like, okay, I can just focus on what I'm doing, I don't have to think about anyone If they're looking at me. You know it's so dark. I like that, yep, yep. And there's so many fun things happening, like the lights and the music, and you're dancing on the platform.

Danielle: 19:37

Yeah, there's a lot.

Shawna: 19:40

I told Brian when we got home and listeners take this with a grain of salt, but I made the joke. When we got home I said Danielle was so good that I was laughing, even when I was in intense pain. Yes, I love that, and I mean intense pain, not really, but it felt like that in the moment.

Danielle: 19:55

Sure, yeah, no, we want to keep it engaged in that room. I teach a lot off the bike because right now I'm just teaching a lot of classes. So I'm being really smart with my body, really intentional. But I've also been doing it a long time. So my younger instructors, they're not going to teach off the bike as much. I remember when I first started teaching I was like I need to stay on this bike the whole time. I can't let it go. But they will get there. I know they will. I've seen it happen with my other instructors at Roots. But me at this point I know how much I'm teaching and I need to just kind of get off that bike and boogie and teach that way. But it's only because I know I have two more classes tomorrow or whatnot. So not all of our instructors do it like that. They're getting there and I'm looking so forward to when they are there, but right now they're just in their first year journey, which I remember those days a while back.

Shawna: 20:48

So are a lot of your instructors brand new yes and no.

Danielle: 20:52

So one of my spin instructors. She taught spin back in Colorado for a very well-known franchise but she hadn't taught in six years. So it was really rebuilding her trust in herself that she hasn't lost it, because I think once you're an instructor you don't lose that juicer power. And then two of my girls they started with me back in, I think November shout out to Brooke and Kenzie never having taught anything. And we started in my garage, in my backyard, with Christmas lights. We call it the Christmas light and mosquito studio. That's what it was.

Brian: 21:26

Well, now you know what you're cycling from, you're trying to get away from mosquitoes, yes.

Danielle: 21:30

So when we finally had access to this room, it was great. At the end of the day, I can teach anybody to teach spin. As long as you love music, you want to learn more than just spin. So, yeah, it's that psychological connection, it's the lights, it's the volume, it's everything. And it's honestly easier for me to teach people how to teach spin with no prior knowledge because it's not like trying to take out old words or habits and creating something new. And then for strength, I do require all of my strength coaches to have personal training or group fitness certifications. They're continuing ed because we're working with people's bodies in different modalities in that room at the same time. So it's really important for us to eye something that needs to be fixed hop over, fix their form or drop their weight factor or add weight factor. Sometimes someone's lifting too light, so that instructor is doing more walking around and coaching. I call that strength room the most affordable personal training.

Brian: 22:24

What was the moment like when you decided okay, I want to launch my own studio.

Danielle: 22:28

So I've been dreaming of this idea for Probably when I first moved here in 2020. It was right after Christmas 2020. I knew I was going to miss Roots, I was going to miss that boutique vibe. I was also going to miss being a manager, having that hat on. But I was also new to Vero so I knew it was really important for me to build a name and a reputation for myself and it did kind of feel good not to have that managerial hat, especially we just went through COVID.

Danielle: 22:56

So we were keeping our studio, our fitness center, afloat for the last six months In Massachusetts. We didn't reopen anything until July, so we were shut down for a very long time. So I knew I had to kind of dive in. I didn't even know if I wanted to continue working in fitness. I didn't know where it would lead me. So, you know, got a few years under my belt as a personal trainer here in Vero, taught classes. Once I saw that my classes were having a line out the door 30 minutes before class began, a couple of my friends at the gym I worked at were like Danielle, just do it, open that studio again. You already know what you can do. Also, my best friend, jackie up north, who I used to work with at Roots. She built my website for resistance, so if you love our website, thanks, jackie, yeah it's really nice.

Danielle: 23:40

Yeah, she was like okay, clearly you're not moving home anytime soon, like I'm closing the door on you on Roots, like I always say, Roots will take you back. She's like just open your own studio. I would say, probably June 2024,. I just started doodling in notebooks Like I I didn't cancel on any of my clients, it didn't affect my employment, I was showing up for work. I didn't really talk to anybody about it. I just wanted to check myself and see do you really have this in your mind and body and soul? Cause I know it's a huge take on. I would go to the library and just kind of sit in one of those desks and have no distractions. I do it without this logo actually in our Indian River County library here in Vero. Shout out to them and it just kind of rolled into what it is now. I got a mentor from FIT in their women's program called WeVenture. It's completely free and sponsored by them. So I had a mentor, named Sunday, that I could reach out to if I had any questions. We would have kind of bi-weekly check-ins through Zoom.

Danielle: 24:41

I started taking webinars through Score just to learn, like what is it like asking for a loan? Through it all I learned. It's really, really hard to start a small business and the world is against you. First of all, to get financing you have to be in business for two years. That doesn't make sense because you're trying to start a business. Also, same thing with, like loans and grants you kind of have to prove yourself and show these previous months in order to even apply. So you know, I was just kind of noodling it in the summer. I knew I had a huge investment from my grandparents and it was originally, you know, to help me pay for college, put a down payment on my house. Luckily my dad paid for my college. I had a ton of scholarships that helped. And then my boyfriend and I bought our house from the previous owners. So they're kind of playing bank and we didn't have to put this huge chunk of money down. So I had this big pot of money just kind of sitting there and I'm like you know what, if worse comes to worse, maybe I can tap into it and get this project off the ground.

Danielle: 25:40

I went through the summer, just you know, again, just teeter-tottering on the idea. I think, looking back, I needed that push because I was always thinking like, well, what about all my clients and everybody that's loved my classes. I don't want to, you know, pull the rug out from under them. Remix rug got pulled out under me.

Danielle: 25:58

I was home from my usual fall trip to New England and received an email of termination from my employer and they had heard I eventually wanted to work for myself, which is fine. I would have appreciated a meeting in person, but it was funny. I got the email and I was in a spin studio lobby in Rhode Island and class was about to start and I just strapped on my shoes, took class with Jackie. The instructor was so entertaining that for 45 minutes I just sweat and wrote. And again this brings me back to the psychological importance of working out.

Danielle: 26:31

If I wasn't just about to work out, I could have been like really mad or shaking or crying, and I didn't and I just took the class, listened to some awesome music, had strangers around me moving their body with me, and after class I looked at Jackie and I was like well, you're a girl, unemployed, let's go. Luckily, too, I still use my accountant in Western Mass. So I called Julie and I said hey, julie, I'm in town for another few days. Do you have any time to meet with me. I'm interested in pulling my investments and starting my own business. And she said, yep, come on in tomorrow. Oh, that's awesome. So when I got back to Florida, it was just like the wheels were on the ground.

Brian: 27:11

First, I want to say that's such an inspiring story, especially for those that might be listening that have bigger dreams and something similar like that might happen. First off, to get an email to let you know you're gone. That just shows that wasn't the right place for you because not to value to actually sit down with you and have a conversation. It just shows a lack of value and they were scared, which also is a sign that, hey, they know you're going to do really good at that.

Brian: 27:33

So, even though it doesn't look like a blessing, even like that email didn't look like a blessing to you, but look what it's turned into.

Danielle: 27:39

Yes, absolutely. And I think I needed that push because, honestly, when you work in fitness, you obviously love people. And I just kept thinking like, okay, when I do finally make that leap, though, I feel so bad for my clients, like I've been training some of them for three tires it's a connection that can't really be replaced and I just kept thinking about them and then it finally just made me say you know what? Nope, be selfish, take this and run with it, and if they want to see me again, they'll be back, absolutely. So I think I wouldn't have been in such a good place if I didn't have such a support system around.

Brian: 28:11

Well, my last question as we get ready to wrap up this episode is there a story behind that name?

Danielle: 28:16

So resistance is what we use in spin. So that red knob, that's part of the bike.

Danielle: 28:22

When it adds to the right, it's adding resistance, and when it peels to the left, it's taking resistance off. Also, the most generic term of strength training is resistance training. You're either resisting gravity or you're resisting a band or a dumbbell or your own body weight. You're resisting it from falling. You're pushing through the floor with certain exercises. So I felt like that name was kind of perfect and I don't.

Danielle: 28:45

I wish I kept a diary, but I don't remember the day where I was like, oh my God, there's so many RE words. But I remember at one point my boyfriend and I were at the pool down in Hard Rock Hollywood, at the casino, and I just busted out my notepad on my phone and just started writing words of RE. And I do specifically remember the day in Rhode Island we had gone out after class like for a drink and we cheers and I was like two rebellion women. So we use the RE for that. So there's so many fun words. So we use the R-E for that. So there's so many fun words.

Danielle: 29:18

Even every Friday I send out seven positive things to all my staff that we did in a week and at the bottom of it I put a definition of a word that started with R-E. So this past Friday was reignite, so yeah, so now my studio is able to brand the R-E. Some people can just call me R-E instead of resistance. I don't really care, but yeah, there's a lot of magical words that start with Ari, and now you'll probably notice.

Shawna: 29:40

Yeah, exactly I love that. That's. Awesome.

Brian: 29:43

Well, this has been a great first episode. So thank you, danielle. Thank you, I'm really excited about getting into part two. We're going to talk about the day-to-day and what that looks like. So if you guys have